Freedom or Bust! Podcast with Joeel and Natalie
Episode 1: An Entrepreneurship Journey from Nightmare to Blessing
In this episode, Joeel & Natalie share the story of how their relationship began when they “started the same business, just not at the same time” and how their businesses have evolved over the past decade, including cliff-diving into starting a magazine, manifesting a book publishing company, becoming life coach trainers, speakers, and serial entrepreneurs. They also share about when it all came crashing down after an overseas trip left Joeel on bed-rest for a year, and how the unintended sabbatical brought them clarity, opportunities, and blessings that helped them re-launch into their dream life and business and reach over 200,000 (today nearly 1,000,000) students from 200 countries around the world.
Meet the Host
We are one of the world’s largest life coach training organizations, with nearly 1 million students across more than 200 countries and territories. From aspiring life coaches to seasoned professionals, we’ve helped individuals at every stage create thriving, purpose-driven businesses and transform lives — starting with their own.
Our founders, Joeel Rivera, M.Ed. and Natalie Rae, are educators, psychology-based curriculum developers, and serial entrepreneurs with a passion for helping people live their truth and make an impact. What started as a mission to empower a few has grown into a global movement of changemakers.
Our certifications are internationally accredited, practical, and deeply transformational — integrating real-world strategies with personal growth principles that work.
